Y'all are crazy for burning down the forum in favor of this vibecoded-looking site.

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I honestly don’t know what to even say at this point. While I understand that the license is basically returning back to GGG, the transition has been a mess. For one: GGG didn’t do preparations for English users, so anyone coming from RMW would be confused. They’d be thinking if they entered the JP forums. Second: Why is the JP translation on by default? I honestly thought that everyone was speaking Japanese until I noticed the translation button.

Again, I understand the decision, even if I believe that the shutdown should have been averted in some way. But GGG not even doing the necessary groundwork is baffling.

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If you hate AI, then in the future you won’t be able to use any products at all, I’m telling the truth. Asian people don’t have any problem with AI, unlike Western communities.

I understand why the RPG Maker Web forum community is angry, since many resources were shared there, but GGG also gave you plenty of time to download those resources. All the resources there were shared by users themselves, so I understand that GGG isn’t responsible for backing them up. Anything new will always have people who dislike it, but this forum is directly managed by GGG, so I find it better than the old forum, where too many negative events happened and there were many issues with the moderators. Many great developers abandoned that forum precisely because it was too negative.

In short, give this place some time to grow.

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You know, something about this forum format felt oddly familiar, but I couldn’t put my finger on it. Until now. This is the same system used by the WoW forums, although it needs a LOT of work to make it better to use. GGG please look at the WoW forums and see how they have things organized, and do something like that for a main page of sorts. It’ll be the difference between this being a suitable replacement for RMW vs this being trash.

So to the doubters, I highly doubt this forum software is “vibe coded.” The CSS might be, though.

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I have been staying with RMW for a more than a decade, and received tons of help from that. Hearing it getting closed really hurt, and after seeing this “thing” taking over, I really wanna curse. This new one is terrible, in every aspect.

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Hi I am videogame designer Orochii Zouveleki and my opinion is that we need more characters adorning the site. Go to RMWeb and look at the front page. Archeia’s arts are adorable. Then come here, and it’s all plain colors. Please add cute girls and boys!

I don’t mind the site tbh, I do agree with AceOfAces’ general sentiment tho. I understand the problem, the fact that posts were made on RMW under Komodo, which means that they hold the rights to host those posts, and that’s not easily transferrable. So it’s not really GGG’s fault. And then on Komodo’s side, I’m assuming it wasn’t worth paying hosting and whatnot to keep it afloat, or I could theorize about some behind the scenes pressure going on, but I will not, I don’t really care about intentions. I understand that you are companies. I think it’s up to the community to do what companies can’t.

One thing I’d ask tho is more links to general things. I’ve been looking for rules, policies, terms and conditions, can’t find them. Are they in the main site? Are there any specific for the forums?

Uhhh yeah! That’s it. I might try lurking a bit, see what becomes of this thing.

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I think you are missing the point of why people are hating this. It’s not just about the AI stuff, and it’s only a small part of it. The real issue is how they are treating the old RMW community. They are acting like decades of our hard work and knowledge from the old forums don’t matter, and that is really frustrating.

And another part is that after all the time they prepared to move us to a new home, this is just like a half-built house without any care. When people like you keep consuming the low-standard products and just keep accepting things as they are, you are just telling them it’s okay to keep giving you low-standard work. The community deserves a better thing than this.

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This is very disappointing to see. While I’ve owned MZ for a long time now, only recently have I had the time to start learning. I browsed the original forum for hints, links to plugins, and general advice.

While I do believe the community will remake this into something great, I really wish some type of data import was made.

Plus, this forum feels very plain. I really hope the site owners really spruce it up. It doesn’t feel “RPG Maker” at all. Just a plain purple/black background.

Either way, I’m rooting for the community.

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I’m not sure how active I’ll be here, but since there are people here, I’ll probably at least post my plugins at some point. The integration of AI into the interface really turns me off, though, so I probably won’t be as active as I was on RPGMakerWeb.

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First of all, all communication regarding this to you, was the responsibility of the Forum Mods on the western side. Who should have informed you of this years ago, when GGG started to self-publish.

I knew this was coming. They likely did too. And they did not inform you, a forum user, of this.

So Gotcha Gotcha Games, who did not have a presence on the English Forums, are not solely responsible for this ‘abruptness’, as much as you think they are.

Additionally, don’t feel it’s all been wasted or didn’t matter. It’s the people & users who possess the knowledge & skills, and they are the true assets. The western RPGMWeb forum has been around for about 14 years, RPG Maker thrived before it, and it will thrive after it. So don’t worry.

Plus RPGMWeb has in many instances, due to the whims of the admins & moderators, have inhibited certain contributors & innovations.

It’s death has the possibility to make the community bloom, where it was being held back before.

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:eyes:??? What is this?

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@GGG_KUDOU @ggg_kuroda

Is there anyone that we can petition to at least prolong the viewing time period of the forums? Removing the emotion out of it, RPGMW contains probably countless assets and solutions to countless problems found with each individual maker engine. While I am personally okay with de-activating the forum, I also personally think that its a better compromise for not just the community but for the company as well to allow the old forums exist as an archive that can be visited to find solutions to problems that were already solved and posted.

I’m asking the team to reconsider the position of deleting the forum and making it an archive at the very least. If a formal petition is required, please confirm who I need to direct this at.

Regards,

Durant026 (Reddit)

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Yo yo yo! I’m back guys!

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I believe this is one of those situations where, even if the idea itself may be interesting, poor execution can end up creating more problems than solutions.

I understand GGG’s intention to centralize everything in one place and gain greater control by directly managing the content themselves. However, I disagree with the way this transition is being handled.

If the goal is to move to a new platform, the process should be gradual, careful, and designed to preserve existing content. I don’t think it’s appropriate to tell users, If you want to keep your content, migrate it yourselves or it will be lost. In my opinion, that’s not a serious approach, and it ultimately hurts the very people who helped build the community over the years.

If they wanted to do this properly, they should have either:

a) Migrated all content, databases, and resources to the new platform automatically.

b) Kept the old website online in a read-only state, preventing new posts after a certain date while preserving all historical content.

I fully support the adoption of new tools and technologies when they provide clear benefits and improvements. In this case, however, I’m not convinced that the advantages outweigh what may be lost.

It’s important to remember that RPG Maker grew largely thanks to the passion and contributions of its community. Because of that, I feel this situation is creating unnecessary controversy that could have been avoided with a different approach.

I sincerely hope this change leads to something positive. There’s still time to reconsider parts of the decision and turn this into a success story rather than a regrettable episode.

As for me, I will continue supporting the RPG Maker community. I have more than 20 years of experience working with different versions of the engine, and I care deeply about its future. But just as we saw with the troubled launch of RPG Maker Unite, where user feedback ultimately led to changes, I believe this is another example of why listening to the community matters.

At the end of the day, the community is all of us. It deserves to be respected and protected. We won’t always agree with every decision, but it’s important that our voices are heard.

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@ggg_kuroda are you planning on adding any features from the RMW forum here?

I’ve just counted, and there are 71 boards on the old forum, while here there are only 7. Not to mention that some parts of the interface aren’t even translated to English. Is this something you’re planning to work on, or will this site be staying as is?

And are there any guarantees that you’re not going to similarly shut down this site too in the future?

As it currently stands, I really don’t see any reason why we should be moving here instead of RMN.

And if you really want to listen to feedback, please at least read what people on the site you’re shutting down are saying: Welcome to RPG MAKER GUILD | RPG Maker Forums.

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Totally in agreement here, it’s like they live in a world where people actually liked using RPG Maker Unite. Just feels a bit tone-deaf. Maybe this place will get better?

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closing the forums is a bad idea. there is no reason to post here knowing that someday you’ll delete this one too. people are going to scatter into private discord communities and the RPGM community will suffer.

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That is Discourse shenanigans (the forum software). Partly, at least. It likes to load your device’s language, and just load JP when there’s no translation.

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Anybody got a running bet they de-list older RPGMs around or after U2U’s launch?

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I’m not the type to get attached so I don’t really mind changing, but at least make the new option look somewhat appealing xD

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If by ‘‘grow’’ you mean a complete redesign then sure :stuck_out_tongue: Not seen such a basic website in quite some time now.

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